Interview:
Ayah
Paul Abine is an embodiment of many things: he is a magistrate of exceptional class
in Cameroon; he is a philanthropist, running an orphanage in Buea;he is the
Paramount Chief of Akwaya town ;he’s a two-term
MP for Akwaya, a 2011 presidential
candidate and currently Secretary-General of People’s action
party(PAP).
Widely noted for his outspokenness on matters
of national and common interest, Hon Ayah Paul Abine sat down, Friday May 10,
in Buea, for an exclusive interview with Recorder Editor Christopher Ambe.
He
spoke on Cameroon’s pioneer Senate, the new-found love between the ruling CPDM
and the SDF, the so-called reunification of Cameroon and more. Following are Excerpts
How is your party, the
People’s Action Party (PAP) faring a few months to Legislative and Municipal
elections?
First of all, I want to thank you for coming
to talk with me .It is not our style to be
telling people what we are doing .And that is the trick that worked wonders in
the 2011 presidential style elections. If you would recall, we were simply
dismissed as a party but the presidential results baffled everybody; so are we
today working on the ground without making any noise. We only go to the press
when we are pressed; for instance you are here now and we have to talk. But,
generally we don’t disclose to people our strategies; we don’t tell people our
strength.
Honourable, apart from
the fact it is provided for by the 1996 constitution, do you as a political
party leader thin that Senate is necessary in Cameroon?
I don’t know if I am in a position to take a
decision in the place of Cameroonians. But if you are asking my opinion –as you
rightly said, as an opinion leader, I would say it is unnecessary; unnecessary
in the sense that the money we are wasting in the name of senate would be used
better elsewhere. I have a friend who just came from Konye and the way he
described the road between Konye and kumba is very horrible.
In Cameroon, we leave
the substance most of the time and chase the shadow. The National Assembly has never
really taken a decision in the interest of Cameroon. The Senate is
going to be composed of the same Cameroonians. I see no difference between the
National Assembly and Senate, except that we are going to have another place
where people will go and sleep all the time and just wake up and clap.
In the days of the
Senate for Cameroon it is going be worse in the sense that the people are too
old if you look at the average age. I know, of course that in places like
Britain, if you look at the House of Lords you have people who are barely
walking, with their hats and pipes on and walking sticks. But then, most often
these are people who are very seasoned, retired people who are patriotic, who
worked for the betterment of their country. In the case of Cameroon, there are
people who will simply go there to sing praises to the President of the
Republic-especially those appointed who have
-properly speaking- no legitimacy. And like in the National Assembly, I
don’t see ever their accepting a private member bill.
What is your opinion
about the apparent new-found love between the SDF and the ruling CPDM
demonstrated publicly during campaigns for Senatorial election? For example,
the CPDM was campaigning for the SDF in the West Region and the SDF was doing
same for the CPDM in the Littoral Region.
If anything has
happened to Cameroon today that can be
decried it is the relationship between the SDF and the CPDM.We are on the field
and since Monday I have held about six meetings …and in all those meetings each
time a question has always come up: if SDF has betrayed the people, do we have
any other hope? Are there other parties that are different? That is the worst
thing that would have happened to our country.
When SDF came up it
attracted so many Cameroonians. This is because when Mr. Biya took over from Mr.Ahidjo
he made us believe that things were going to be different. I was in Bamenda in
1983, when he said one of the first things that he was going to do was to stop
the chasing of dossiers.Today, chasing of dossiers-and for non-Cameroonians,
that means somebody goes from office to office, from table to table in government
offices following up papers. Chasing of dossiers today in Cameroon is an institution,
a business. Many are teachers today who have abandoned the classrooms and are
only chasing dossiers. They do it for you and they are paid 30% of whatever
amount is paid to you eventually. To the best of my knowledge, I don’t see anything that Mr.Biya has promised that has
come to pass. To be honest to ourselves
we have not seen any. And for any party of the opposition –working for change,
to go to bed with the very institution that has grounded Cameroon in all
aspects because Cameroon today has embassies that are closed down, Cameroon has embassies they cannot even fund;
in almost every quarter of a town in
Cameroon today you have gendarmes /police harassing everybody to collect money to
put in the state coffers; no body today is talking about the HIPC I funds; we
were told to wait for the completion point .It is a taboo today to ask what has
been done with those funds. So, for anybody who has had the confidence of
Cameroon as a party of opposition, to go back to the very evil that we want to
get rid of, to me is an abomination.
And so do we tell Cameroonians,
that today there is only one opposition party that is most trustworthy and that
is Peoples Action party (PAP), which is the Third Option. Third option in the
sense that, there is the ruling CPDM, there is the so-called opposition and PAP
is the third option.
Honourable, let me
bring you now to the appointment of senators by President Biya. What is your
reaction to the appointment of 30 senators including Chief Anja Simon who is
your own “brother” from your constituency of Akwaya?
Well, I know that I
contested elections with Dr.Anja Simon twice -in 2002 and 2011, and I beat him.
If, today,Mr. Biya has raised him to the office of senator, well and good for
Akwaya, because that is part of the country that has been neglected all along.
I congratulate him.
But on the whole it is
pity that Mr.Biya has not opened up. We were hoping that, for the first time if
only at the very last minute Mr. Biya was going to open up, bring in people from the civil society, bring in
people from the genuine opposition. If you
look at those he has appointed, all are cronies of the CPDM.All in the sense
that if he has gone out of the CPDM it is parties that are said to part of the Presidential Majority. So they are birds
of a feather which are flocking together. It is so sad fro Cameroon that we
have waited for 17 years to have senate. And we are going to have a sham in the
name of Senate.
It is highly rumored
that an Anglophone will be selected or elected Speaker of Senate. Do you think
that if that comes true it is going to help in addressing the decades-old
Anglophone Problem that includes gross marginalization in appointment and
development projects?
You see me laughing
before answering the question. Of all the political figures in Cameroon today
of Anglophone origin including the SDF there is only one man who has stuck out
his neck in favor of the Anglophone cause. And this man is a certain Ayah Paul
of PAP.Mr. Biya has already appointed his senators. If one of them is appointed
President of Senate tomorrow, he is not going to depart from what he has been before.
Whoever that may be I don’t believe that it is now that he will owe allegiance
to Mr.Biya by reason of his appointment that he will be able to tell Mr. Biya
that my people are suffering or like Moses say “ Pharaoh ,let my people go” I don’t see any effect of such an
appointment on the Anglophone cause.
Let’s address the
so-called 50th anniversary celebration of Cameroon’s reunification
coming soon.Recently, there was a Government-sponsored conference-debate in
Yaoundé during which renowned historians and constitutionalists publicly
admitted that there was no legal union between la Republique du Cameroun and
Southern Cameroons. What is your take on that?
I have already told you
that among the Anglophone Politicians, I alone have had the courage to say that
there no document on reunification. You cannot talk about 50th
anniversary of reunification without talking about the starting point, then the
first second, third and up to the fiftieth anniversary
I have challenged the
President of the Republic to just refer to any document anywhere to the effect
that in the eyes of the law there is reunification between Southern Cameroon
and La Republique of Cameroun that was under French Trusteeship. There is no
such document and remember that on December 31.2009 in his end of the year
address to the nation,Mr .biya himself said the only documents in the Secretariat-General of the United Nations on
the Independence of Cameroon are those of January 1,1960.What they call
reunification is said to have dated from
October 1,1961 but in the UN Charter
any change in the boundaries of La Republique du Cameroun as of January
1,1960 ought to have been notified to the UN in writing ,filed in the
Secretariat-General of the UN.In the absence of any such document there
is nothing in the eyes of the law called reunification.
Do you agree with the
claim by some very critical minds that La Republique du Cameroun is annexing
Southern Cameroons?
Well we could call it
Southern Cameroons…they are there. I don’t know may be on an era. And that is
why I have applied a number of times to meet the President of the Republic to
impress on him that force has never resolved any problem anywhere in the world.
There is no war that has not ended in peace talks. It is incumbent on him if he
is a patriot, if he loves peace to dialogue with the Anglophones. Outside that
whatever they are doing in this part of the country is not without the law. It
is not right.
Ahead of municipal and
legislative elections, do you have an appeal to make to Cameroonians as a
whole?
Appeal to Cameroonians?
Well, some Cameroonians have sold their soul to the devil; they thought that 20
years was a long time; they forgot simply that the Bible says “what does it
profit a man if he gains the whole world and suffers the loss of his own soul?”
so it is the same old people that Mr.Biya has called to the senate –just a slap
in the face of the youth and women. How many women are there?
Therefore, as I have
said, Cameroonians should understand here and now that the only one party that
stands out to defend the youth and women is PAP.PAP was the first political
party in the world to provide that once
it took over Cameroon, there would be equal number of men and women in Government.
The French have copied it from us-because I gave them a copy of My Vision of a Born Again Cameroon”-hand
mail; I gave it to the French Ambassador. I was not alone. I led a delegation
and they have applied it. So we are the third option; we are not fighting our
course, we are not fighting a course for anybody, we are fighting a general course
that when it comes to pass all of us will regain out dignity; all of us will be
able to respect the law and get protected by the law.
(First published in The Recorder Newspaper,Cameroon,of May 15,2013)
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